Monday, May 26, 2008
baby Wilmot
Tuesday, May 20, 2008
Solving the Marriage Mystery
Hi Jill,
A.B Johnston was a Methodist minister. See his own marriage details:
3945-89 (Frontenac Co):
groom: Alexander B. JOHNSTON, 32, Methodist Minister, Hawkesbury, Elginburgh, s/o Alexander & Martha
bride: Millie M. PURDY, 21, Collinsby, same, d/o John & Mary
witness: Hedley V. WRIGHT of Portsmouth and Daniel McDONALD & Emma CLARK, both of Collinsby, 15 Aug 1889 at Collinsby (should be Collins Bay?)
This minister was in Sudbury, Nipissing in 1901 census with his family and several children. Just looking at the births of his children, this family was in Elginburg(h) Kingston Twp, Frontenac in 1892; Westmeath Renfrew County in 1894; and Sudbury, Nippissing District in 1894 and 1900.
Perhaps the minister was good friends with the Graves family, or a relative of the Graves family and returned to Frontenac just for this marriage?
The marriage registration says the marriage occurred in the township of Pittsburgh. The registration doesn't give the exact place in Pittsburgh. It was also by license and not banns so an actual church affiliation would not have been necessary or the record may be in the Methodist church register where the Graves family attended. It could have been done at the bride's home.
Sunday, May 18, 2008
JOHN WILMOT & ANN ROSS DUNLOP
Next on the Roy Wilmot four generation chart comes his paternal grandfather, JOHN WILMOT and paternal grandmother ANN ROSS DUNLOP.
John & Annie were married about 1857. To date, I have not found a date for their marriage. They were not listed in the Presbyterian Records (her religion; on LDS film #1307512) nor did I find a date for their marriage in the Anglican Diocese records (his religion). In 2005 a friend of the Wilmot family did research of this family. In her notes, their marriage date is 8 Sep 1857 at Springfield Farm, which is the name of the original Wilmot farm in Pittsburgh Township. Unfortunately, that date and place were not sourced so I can't confirm it.
John and Annie had five children that we knew about previous to going to Kingston, two sons and three daughters. In Kingston we found a sixth child, another son. He was born and died in between censuses and that's why we didn't know about him before now.
The birth dates, names and christening dates of their children are:
11 Dec 1858 Mary Elizabeth Wilmot baptism 6 Mar 1859 M at St. James Church in Kingston
7 Jun 1862 John James Wilmot baptism 24 Aug 1862 at St. Mark's Church in Barriefield
16 May 1865 Albert Edward Wilmot baptism 9 July 1865 at St. Mark's Church in Barriefield
13 Mar 1868 Sarah Agnes Wilmot baptism 2 Jun 1867 at St. Mark's Church in Barriefield
1 Nov 1869 Alfred (Albert) Bower Wilmot baptism 7 Jan 1870 at St. Mark's Church
abt Aug 1873 Annie Isabel Wilmot
St James Church and St. Mark's Church are both part of the Church of England/Anglican Church. I am missing the date for Annie Isabel's christening. Most likely is it's in the Diocese data base and I just didn't write it down or perhaps she wasn't baptized as an Anglican.
One other thing of note is on the civil birth registration for Albert Bower, his name is very clearly ALFRED BOWER. On the Anglican church christening records, his name is spelled ALBERT BOYER. As best as anyone knows he was always called Bower but his name is Albert on the 1901 and 1911 census. His father also completed a civil registration for him twice: once without a name on 13 Nov 1869 and then with his name on 25 Apr 1870.
Other known events in this family's history are:
Before 1871: The death of son, Albert Edward. He would not yet have been 6 years old when he died. We could not find his death exactly in the Anglican Diocese records by his name because there was no one of that name. There was a death for Albert John Wilmot and the death age matches Albert Edward's birth date, but it's not confirmed that it is the same child. The church death record for Albert John states that he was buried in the Milton Cemetery, but there is not a marker for him in the cemetery.
26 Jan 1887: Mary Elizabeth married JOHN GILLESPIE. They had five daughters and two sons.
- 11 Dec 1887 Harold Wilmot Gillespie
- 23 May 1889 Ada Victoria Gillespie
- 31 Dec 1891 Mabel Agnes Gillespie
- 8 Jan 1894 Annie Elizabeth Gillespie
- 5 Mar 1896 John Herbert Gillespie
- 7 Sep 1898 Isabel M Gillespie
- 31 Aug 1902 Ruth Gillespie
24 Nov 1897: Albert Bower Wilmot married Mary Agnes Graves. For details of their life, please see the post from May 8.
15 Mar 1899: Sarah Agnes Wilmot married CHRISTOPHER LANGWITH. They had two daughters.
- June 1903 Annie Langwith
- 25 Sep 1906 Hilda Langwith
27 Dec 1899: John James Wilmot married LILLIAN MORELAND. They had one daughter and three sons. When we were in Kingston some of the people we talked to knew descendants of John James, but we didn't meet any of them. I believe this is the Wilmot family who owned and operated Wilmot's Dairy in the 1950's. Some of the people on the Frontenac mailing list have said that they remember going to Wilmot's Dairy as children for ice cream and licorice pipes.
- 22 Sep 1900 John Moreland Wilmot
- 10 Jun 1902 William Leslie Wilmot
- 13 Aug 1904 Helen Margaret Wilmot
- 4 Nov 1908 Kenneth Reid Wilmot
18 Mar 1911: Ann Ross Dunlop Wilmot died when she was 76 years old. She is in the picture on the right, but I do not know the year the picture was taken. Her name and death date are on LDS fiche #6050546 as being buried in the Cataraqui Cemetery but when we went to the Cataraqui Cemetery, they did not know where she was buried and did not have her name in their filing box. As I am not familiar with medical terms and I can't tell what she died of but the writing looks like "Chronic Infinities" for 8 years.
29 Oct 1927: Mary Wilmot Gillespie died. She was 68 years old.
1955: John James Wilmot died. He was 93 years old and is buried in the Cataraqui Cemetery. This is a picture of the tombstone that looks over his family plot. His wife and a few of his children are buried there with him.
I don't know the death date for Sarah Agnes Wilmot Langwith, but according to the Ontario Cemetery Finding Aid, there is a Sarah Agnes Langwith buried in the Sandhill Battersea Cemetery in Frontenac County. It could be the same person.
Thursday, May 8, 2008
Albert Bower Wilmot & Mary Agnes Graves... a marriage mystery
In a book of Clifford Roy Wilmot's, he wrote that his parents, Albert & Mary, were married in St. Mark's Church in Barriefield. I have a copy of their marriage certificate and both Roy and his brother Ross were baptized as infants in this church. While in Kingston, it surprised my mom and I to find out that Albert & Mary were not listed in any of the the register books for the Anglican Diocese of the Anglican Churches in the area. This past week I emailed the Diocese Archives to ask if perhaps their marriage was not recorded in the book and I included a jpeg image of the scanned photocopy. Genealogy is nothing if not surprises.
The big revelation is that Albert and Mary were in fact not married in St. Mark's Church. The Anglican Diocese confirmed this using two reasons. The name of the "Officiating Minister" is A.B. Johnston. There is no such person who is listed in the Diocesan Clergy Register that has been in existence since 1862. The other reason is that on the certificate, there is nothing to say that they were married in St. Mark's Church. It doesn't say any other church either but it does look like they may have been married at a place called "Erie".
Along the bottom left the last sentence is "No. A247015 Registered at Barriefield" but this does not prove that they were married in Barriefield.
So, since they were both a couple kids from Pittsburgh Township born and raised, why did they not get married at the closet church? It's the church that the Wilmot's have been going to for generations and Mary's father was also one of the first confirmed members of the parish. In the book Courage, Faith and Love The History of St. Mark's Church by William J. Patterson, Albert and Mary are confirmed members.
The romantic in me wonders, "Did they elope"? The witnesses are William John Calvert (I've never heard of him) and S Agnes Wilmot. S Agnes is Albert's sister so if they eloped she knew about it and went with them.
I googled ERIE ONTARIO. There is a place called Fort Erie, Ontario, very close to the Niagra River. It's on the opposite end of Lake Ontario over 420 km's away from Kingston. Fort Erie was built in 1857 so it would have been in existence in 1897. It does, however, seem too far away to go and get married there.
I also googled ERIE NEW YORK since it would have been closer to cross the St. Lawrence River into New York and perhaps there is a place in New York called Erie, but the only Erie that came up there is south of Fort Erie, Ontario; no where near the St. Lawrence River.
My last google search was for A.B. Johnston. Apparently there was an A.B. Johnston on the ship the Titanic, but it's not really clear if he was able to perform marriages.... maybe the story is they eloped and were married by a man who later died in the sinking of the Titanic. Who was it that said, "Never spoil a story for the sake of the truth."
So now I suppose I will put a note out there on the Frontenac County mailing list from the rootsweb.ancestry.com website and see if anyone else out there can maybe point me in the direction of their marriage place.
My mom and I visited St. Mark's Church in Barriefield. It's a beautiful church, and we imagined what it must have been like on their wedding day... where they would have stood... who would have been in attendance... and we were wrong.